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Q. How would you describe yourself?
A. It's a mystery...
Q. Have you found your purpose in life?
A. I am not sure that you find your purpose in life, rather your purpose finds you.
Q. Do you travel, if so where is your next desired location?
A. I love travel its a bit like the University of Life you get to see a range of different landscapes, cultures and ways of life. You miss a flight, a train, a boat and all of a sudden you have a different direction or you meet someone you wouldn't have otherwise met. You meet lots of really cool and different people and usually people who have got out there and taken the brave step to leave their comfort zone of home are the ones that really make something of themselves. I personally like to do a lot of surf travel, for some reason surfing has always taken me to really remote and beautiful places all over the world. My next desired location - a wave I haven't surfed yet
Q. Where do you see yourself in five years?
A. That too, is a mystery. With any luck still here and kicking...
Q. What was your most humbling experience, in your adult life?
A. Delivering my Grandfathers Eulogy, you know you can be as hard as nails, as tough as you like, you can learn to deal with tough times and all the harsh things life can throw at you but its moments like these that really humble you. Firstly the honour of being handed the responsibility is a little nerving but you prepare yourself past this and its not until that moment of delivery in front of not only your family and peers but his family and peers as well that it all hits you. In that moment you go to water....
Q. Are you competitive, if so who do you compete with?
A,Yes, with myself.
Q. What do you like most about your companies?
A.The challenge ahead,
Q. What are your best features, professionally and personally? Keep it clean
A. Patience (Bali teaches you this), ability to pay attention to detail and sense of humor
Q. If you could change any moment in your past, what would it be and, how would it change your present life?
A. I don't think I would change a single thing, otherwise i wouldn't be where i am now. I really like where i am now and that has only been a result of all the things, good and bad, that have happened to me up to this point. To go back and change a single moment would ultimately change the moment we are in now... is that to hippy?
Q. I know you were able to raise money and awareness during "Movember". What other causes do you support, aside from contributing to Speaking Out of Turn Magazine?
A. I support Breast Cancer each year as well, so that's one for the girls, Movember is one for the boys so we are even.
Q. What type of experiences do you wish to have, in the next couple of years?
A. More travel and to meet really interesting people
Q. What challenges to you hope to overcome?
A. I love a challenge but it must be a worthy one. I don't see any point entering into a challenge that is not worthy of you or is not going to push you to your limits or not make you struggle for a result, that would defeat the purpose. I thrive on a challenge, i think life would be pretty boring if it was just an easy ride but I suppose for some people they are happy with that. I think in order to grow as a person you have to challenge yourself in as many aspects as possible mentally, culturally, physically and socially.
Q. What would make you feel completely happy?
A. Achieving my personal and professional goals.
Q. If you were to have a Mantra, what would it be?
A. Watch your thoughts for they become your words.
Watch your words for they become actions.
Watch your actions for they become habits.
Watch your habits for they become your character.
Watch your character for that becomes your destiny
Margaret Thatchers Father, Frank Outlaw and Lao Tzu all have been credited for the above but no single person has been identified as the originator of these words.
Q. How awesome is it to have dealings, with Monica M. Lawton?
A. Always a pleasure
Q. What are your expectations of others in your inner circle?
A. To keep me in line, make sure I am not getting too big for my boots. The people in your inner circle are the ones close enough to know the good and the not so good things about you. I suppose you only really expect support and genuine friendship from them. Genuine is a hard thing to find these days and usually you need to go through a few rough times and have the chips go down on you a couple of times before you can really establish who is in your camp. When you dust yourself off and clean yourself up after a fall you expect those in the inner circle to be there helping you up. Funnily enough it is usually only them that are there anyway the hangers on would have jumped ship, the inner circle would never have left your side.
Questions By: Monica M. Lawton
Answers By: Troy Sinclair

Q. Who are you, and from whence have you come?
A. My name is Devin Vermeulen- I'm a designer/architect/photographer/DJ from New York City via Detroit, St Louis & Lawrence, Kansas.
Q. What is the name of the company you work for, and you job title?
A. I work for WeWork- and I am the Creative Director.
Q. What is the basic concept of this company?
A. WeWork helps entrepreneurs, freelancers & small businesses succeed by making them more connected with each other and by providing them with amazing office space and services that allow them to focus their energy on what they do best.
Q. What do you like about this type of network?
A. We're a force of good! We provide really cool design and space that would otherwise be out of reach for small companies, especially on budget. And on top of that we help return their investment by promoting growth and collaboration through events, education, services, etc. And on a personal level, I get to design cool spaces all day with no clients only limited by my imagination and our budget. And everyone who works here is awesome and its a great energy.
Q. Can you describe a typical work day?
A. Well today we are focusing on our new building that is going to open this summer in lower Manhattan. The design team is putting together direction, details, light fixtures, finishes, and pricing for 3 floors worth of offices so we can start our architectural consultants on drawing the final construction set at the same time as we are pricing all of our design work to make sure we're on budget. Also Wednesday is now officially "Guerilla Makeover Night" every week where me, the CCO and the Art Director spend the evening installing some kind of random custom art installation somewhere in the company with the help of whoever is around that night and interested. Tonight we're going to wheat paste some black and white photos onto a few walls of our building in Meatpacking here in NY.
Q. Where is this company located?
A.Our Headquarters is based in New York and we have 6 buildings here that are currently open; but we also have buildings right now in San Francisco and Los Angeles. Chicago, Seattle, Austin, and DC are coming up soon too!
Q. How long have you worked there?
A. I've worked here for about 2-1/2 years. The company is 3 years old. I was employee #6 and now we have over 60 people in headquarters alone!
Q. Can you share a funny work story, sarcasm included?
A. In order to work so fast and cheap when we were starting out, it meant I had a drill in my hand as often as a laptop. My 2nd day ever at WeWork I found myself riding on the roof of our freight elevator in Soho, straddled over the metal beams in the elevator shaft, precariously balancing about 6 or 7 giant 4'x8' glass doors as I yelled down to my coworker Jose below, who was jerry-rigging the elevator controls to move me up and down so I could bring the doors up 4 stories from the street. The only thing more likely than him electrocuting himself on the controls was me managing to fall or destroy the doors or both. Luckily things have become less and less life threatening over time :)
Q. What would you like the masses to know about your company?
A. That we may be getting big fast, but we have not lost our edge, our humbleness, or our startup spirit! It's funny that articles lately refer to us as a "co-working giant" when the days seem so recent that the entire company including the CEO (there were only 6 of us after all) were dragging desks into place at 6AM the night before a floor opening to make sure they didn't move into an empty construction site! The creative forces here are still keeping things weird and cool, no matter how fast we build or how big we get!
Q. How awesome is it to know, Monica?
A. Ahahahahaha. It's an honor, and a pleasure.

He Works...
Question By: Monica M. Lawton
Answers By: Devin Vermeulen




Interestingly enough, the man who is about to be interviewed could easily be called the Grand Dad of the party scene here in Bali, and probably outside of the so called in-crowd you would never know that through his efforts, karma and just good vibes you wouldn’t be dancing.
S.B. You’re on.
B. My name is boots, just had my fifty fifth year old body with an eighteen year captive inside it. I hold an English passport, but I’m a world citizen. I arrived in Bali nineteen eighty six and came here basically to supply my gallery and boutique in Atlantic City, New Jersey. I came for two weeks, fell in love with the place, divorced my wife, married Bali, and here I am twenty three years later. (Laughter)
S.B. Were you in Bali all this time?
B. No, traveling around the world, preferably on the party scene, involvement of the party scene.
S.B. Before Bali were you on the Goa circuit?
B. Yeah, I’ve been going to Goa since nineteen seventy eight and around Asia.
S.B When did you begin to be a spin doctor?
B. I started here in Ninety two. I went from production, producing parties, to actually playing at them. Ollie Wisdom from the Space Tribe gave me my first Dat and actually gave me the confidence to be able to do it. I had always been sitting in the background and being larger than life that everybody always thinks I am. The big kick I had was producing the parties, and then when get you really first good feedback from D.J.ing, it’s like a drug, it’s highly addictive.
S.B. That’s show bizz. What kind of equipment did you use then?
B. In those days it was digital audio tapes, there was no such thing as instant rewind. If you missed a track it would be like, ah shit, rewind, rewind and the next track would be finished half way. It was very difficult.
S.B. Coming from being a D.J. in New York, I was totally unaware of tapes, it was strictly a vinyl records thing, how did the tape thing start?
B. This party thing coming from Goa, nobody wants to schlep a hundred kilo’s of vinyl records around with them, plus the fact when you came here, into the airport, they see you and one dollar per record airport tax.
S.B. What do you think about the music scene now as opposed to then?
B. When that happened, I was listening to bands like the Stones, Led Zeppelin, and Jimmy Hendrix. These were good rock bands, so when this duff, duff, duff techno music appeared on the scene, in the beginning I was wondering what the hell is this shit, and then all of a sudden it was location, decoration and stimulation, all in place and it went clung, clung, clung and the left side of my brain opened up to meet the right side of my brain, and it was love at first listen.
S.B. You just pointed out in those days it was rock music. In the States it was Motown and Stacks, disco. You could never get anybody on the dance floor with the English invasion.
B. I was never into that, I was brought up on Cream and Rory Gallagher. For many years in knolling the fact, why isn’t anybody mixing the trance dance music with Jimmy Hendrix, Zepplin and all the old masters. Then all of a sudden it happened, took ten years, beautiful mix’s and incorporating all the old greats.
S.B. The last party that I was at you were playing, you played a lot of oldies but goodies.
B. For me, good music is timeless. When you got a good track, Dire Straights (Money for Nothing) their classics, their eternal timeless classics and they’ll never go out of fashion and a lot of time it’s refreshing.
S.B. Age has nothing to do with music?
B. No.
S.B. So you will be a D.J. until you go to the grave? (Laughter)
B. Beyond that hopefully, a rave from the grave (Laughter), why not?
S.B. Are you getting more work now these days than before?
B. Not really, times being what they are and the nature of the party’s that we like to do where by there’s no entrance fee. Now you’re doing it in night clubs, your doing it in fabulous locations and half these parties is in getting there. From start to finish, organizing the whole thing with the trucks and decoration on site, and the generators and equipment up there, it’s an adventure from start to finish. But then again, that’s the fun, the adventure; you’re almost creating the impossible.
S.B. When you do these gigs are you responsible for the whole sound system?
B. Yeah, yeah, basically from A-Z. You would go there organize the sound system, transportation, decoration, permits with the locals, the police license etcetera.
S.B. Well that separates you from D.J.’s where they just come in and spin.
B. I’ve never considered myself to this day to be a D.J., I’m not, I’m a party planner, organizer and my passion is actually playing music. I have per say, never been paid to play (Laughter), actually that’s not true. (Laughter)
S.B. We know, Life. (Laughter)
B. Basically it’s a collective energy of people celebrating; you know solar eclipse spreading the joy.
S.B. Whatever excuse there is to party.
B. Exactly, you don’t really need an excuse to party.
S.B. When you first started playing here, were there many D.J.’s around?
B. Less than there are now.
S.B. Does the competition bother you?
B. Like I said, I don’t consider myself as a D.J., Papa Full Moon they used to call me, it’s always been about aural pleasure, aural being aural, not oral. (Laughter)
S.B. Are you having more fun these days?
B. That’s a good question? I’d like to say yes, but honestly it’s getting harder and harder to party these days. It’s become a job and a lot of aggravation associated with it. Everything was done in commissions, so now it’s getting harder to lock those commissions in place and you have to deal with Banjars, licensing and it’s getting more and more expensive.
S.B. Have you done these kinds of parties outside of Bali?
B. All over the world, Australia, Italy, Singapore, Thailand, India, and America. I’m a party people citizen.
S.B. One day on the moon, then you’ll really be Papa Moon (Laughter)
B. Hopefully I won’t be playing in jail. (Laughter)
S.B. What do you think of the club scene as opposed to the event scene?
B. I think the club scene here is world class; it’s as good as anywhere, that not saying it’s for me. The first five years that I was here in Bali I don’t think I stayed home one night, now with kids, family life, responsibility, you have to direct energy sensibly and responsibly eventually. For years I’ve put off containers of furniture which were going out all over the planet waiting to go and it would a be full moon and I would say to hell with it. Totally irresponsible, there’s a time when reality really does exist.
S.B. You’re just a kid with wrinkles? Yeah, that’s the one (Laughter), Can I use that one?
S.B. It’s yours. O.k., a rap is a rap, so let’s wrap this up.
B. Everything I do is about having fun, it’s not about making money, money is not the issue. It’s all about spreading happiness, and when you get that feedback, like in Padang, Padang a big fire ball coming off the bridge, down the valley, over the beach, over the people, hitting the fifty liters of gasoline on top of the rock in the ocean and exploding and hitting the Tibetan burning Om. When you see that energy come back, these idea’s that are so simple create such energy, there’s nothing like it.
Chow mein, Salvador Bali
Boots

1. When did you realize you wanted to become a jewelry designer?
Somewhere between creating hand made feather earrings to sell at Bondi Markets in Sydney, and becoming a little dissatisfied with my Fashion design studies...
2. Tell me a little about yourself. Where are you from? What are your general professional and non-professional interests?
Milli, millicent, milsyweed, milaaaaaa; born & bred in the Blue Mountains, formative years in Sydney, perhaps overstayed my welcome in Berlin, currently dabbling in London.
Jewelry, Jewelry, Jewelry, gotta be a bit one-track minded i find, also like baking amazing cakes with weird ingredients, next experiment 'beet-root & chocolate', very excited, and sometimes running to balance all the cake-eating...
3. What was the first piece you ever designed?
Probably above mentioned feather earrings, although now i think about it can recall something with twisted safety pins back in high school, like to think things are improving...
4. How long have you worked as a designer?
I guess since i launched my label, i mean i studied as a fashion designer as well, but its one of those careers that you feel more like it is what you are not what you do.
5. Do you prefer sketching designs or actually constructing them?
Its funny i love drawing and i am actually quite good at it but even though i should do more of it, i hate to sketch my designs, much preferring to sculpt samples out of strange and varying materials.
6. How would you define your personal style?
"I wear my sort of clothes to save me the trouble of deciding which clothes to wear." by Katherine Hepburn is one of my favorite quotes. Pre fashion studies, i think i fancied myself as quite a 'fashionista,' as life goes on its become clear to me that i am too impatient to deal with complicated clothes and too in from growing up super tall to want to stand out in a crowd.
7. What other experience do you have in the fashion industry (stylist, retail, marketing, etc.)?
I worked a year or so in a slightly soul destroying retail/visual merchandizing position for Espirit, i interned and worked with the lovely Hannah McNicol during and after my Fashion studies in Sydney, I've done a bit of modeling, written for a few publications with a 'fashiony' sort of angle. Plus jewelry is quite close to Fashion industry wise, so i guess i am relatively familier with the industry.
8. What are your favorite materials to work with and why?
I like playing with different materials, part of the joy of jewelry for me is that i studied Fashion not jewelry so discovering each new medium and what can be done with it is part of my design process, i like clay, copper sheeting, wire, cord and paper for sample development, and am currently producing in brass, silver and hand carved wood.
9. Where can readers find out more about you and your work?
My blog www.millicentbystander.com details a lot of activity behind the label as well as profiles of other creatives and events, www.miesnobisberlin.tumblr.com is a sort of visual process diary as i work, inspiration, ideas, images and other jewelry designers i like, the facebook page https://www.facebook.com/miesnobis has a constant stream of any media attention received, photos of happy customers wearing their pieces, and updates about the label...
10. *What are some of your designing goals?
To stop having to ask my Grandfather for money.
To design and produce a collection i am 100% satisfied with.
To be able to step away from doing EVERYTHING myself and concentrate more on just designing.
To get some stockists in Scandinavian country's, so much style, so much money.
Mies Nobis

Questions By: Monica M. Lawton
Answers By: Millicent Nobis.







